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10-11-2012, 01:55 PM | #1 | ||
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http://www.news.com.au/national/auto...-1226513994050
Seriously, how does a good news story about a supplier being saved by Ford and Holden working together become another Ford is dead story? Munners |
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10-11-2012, 02:06 PM | #2 | ||
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Yup he even quotes ford forums in it
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10-11-2012, 05:12 PM | #3 | ||
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I missed that bit, where was it?
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10-11-2012, 02:29 PM | #4 | ||
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Aaahhhh he makes me rage. What a total ******* goose.
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10-11-2012, 02:32 PM | #5 | ||
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How is that article any different to threads on here that turn into the same thing?
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10-11-2012, 03:00 PM | #7 | ||
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What does it matter if we ignore him, there are huge numbers of prospective buyers out there reading it which is only going to hurt Ford Australia. His speculation is so irresponsible, it's unbelievable this garbage gets published. At the end of the day nobody knows what Ford is going to do in the long term, nothing has been announced so there is nothing to talk about. How it ends up in news articles constantly is beyond me.
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10-11-2012, 03:06 PM | #8 | |||
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. . . . well actually, it isn't as bad, he is only quoting some of what is written on here |
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10-11-2012, 05:06 PM | #9 | |||
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10-11-2012, 05:25 PM | #10 | |||
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the sad thing is that although many know what they are doing, others have no idea of how their posts can impact the brand . . . . and then they hang crap on gover, dowling and co |
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10-11-2012, 06:16 PM | #11 | ||
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On one hand you have a public forum, on the other a nationally distributed news source. When FordForums threads start appearing on the front page of news.com.au and in newspapers all over the country presented as journalism, then they might have the same reach as this clown.
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12-11-2012, 06:13 PM | #12 | |||
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i know someone with a ba who had electric window problems. i told him about the thread here and what they did to fix it, and he then told me he saw that thread. he googled the appropriate words and hey presto - ford forums gives all the info needed i think there is a good chance those looking for a new ford could see more on here than they will ever see in the cars guide area. the only people who read the cars guide are those with an interest in cars. those who don't have an interest when looking for a car might google the car type and end up here |
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13-11-2012, 08:46 PM | #13 | |||
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I hope everyone that does spew the doom and gloom are happy they are getting printed in the media (Well.. plagiarised in the media).
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12-11-2012, 10:18 AM | #14 | |||
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it's nasty that they go off at Ford for not revealing plans beyond 2016, but who can plan that far ahead? (and if so would it be something you'd want public?)
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10-11-2012, 03:32 PM | #15 | ||
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no doubt he patrols the forums, and no doubt he picks up some negative vibes from some of the constantly negative posters on here with an axe to grind, that bring up the same stuff over and over and over again, or the odd troll, cars have problems, cars of all brands, by all means talk about it have a rant, then move on , it gets real stale after a while.
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10-11-2012, 05:15 PM | #16 | ||
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Enthusiast blog sites have angrily accused the current boss of Ford Australia, Bob Graziano, a Detroiter, of being sent here to "shut it down" even though he has not shut down a factory in his career.
I remember reading that exact line on another thread here sure it could be any forum but they don't get much bigger then this one |
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10-11-2012, 05:18 PM | #17 | |||
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10-11-2012, 05:33 PM | #18 | ||
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What I'd like to know is why is a article written by a so called journalist titled
"Autodom collapse almost wrecked Australian car industry" When 99% of the article was a false accusation about one car branded manufacturer in Aus, He really does have a personal vendetta out for Ford Aus. |
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10-11-2012, 05:47 PM | #19 | |||
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FG Falcons are fantastic cars, I enjoy driving mine each time and have had no issues in the two years since delivery. Love the car. Misleading reports like this make readers not even look at a Falcon as possible purchase. Last edited by Silver Ghia; 10-11-2012 at 05:58 PM. |
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10-11-2012, 05:54 PM | #20 | ||
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Isn't he the love child of Harold Scruby and Clare Martin??
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10-11-2012, 05:56 PM | #21 | ||
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It's so sad to see things like that article written. When I bout my BA last year I paid the owner, not ford. I wish I could have bought it from ford and supported the company in some little way.
Losing the Falcon will be a tragedy.
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10-11-2012, 05:59 PM | #22 | ||
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12-11-2012, 03:25 PM | #23 | ||
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You did, without a 2nd hand market, no-one would buy a Falcon new. Resale value is often at the forefront of peoples minds when buying new, and it's the potential for resale that dictates its resale value.
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14-11-2012, 05:46 PM | #24 | |||
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Mine may only be a BA XT but at least I'm sort of supporting the Australian car industry. If I had the $$$ for a new car I know what I'd buy.
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10-11-2012, 06:31 PM | #25 | ||
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Sounds like he is putting his thoughts and preferences before anything far more important.
Well done you twit! |
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10-11-2012, 07:10 PM | #26 | ||
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Dowling's logic,
"Because Ford hasn't made a commitment like Holden to continue local manufacturing beyond 2020, they must be planning to close up....." An opinion dressed up as fact and god help anyone disagreeing with that "logic".... |
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10-11-2012, 07:16 PM | #27 | ||
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Not trying to be the devils advocate here but apart from the article being about the Autodom woes turning into one about Fords woes there wasn't anything new in there that I read that hasn't already been in numerous articles and reports already.
Holden have announced that they will continue manufacturing into the immediate future, they just don't know exactly what product, while Ford Oz haven't made any official announcement. I didn't read any Falcon bashing or Commodore lauding, only the mention that the EB Falcon wasn't a huge sales success. Its even mentioned that an industry insider/advisor believes Ford will work hard to keep Aus production going beyond 2016. So apart from it being crappy journalism (the article changing subject half way through turning into a Ford's demise piece) there wasn't really anything inflammatory in his article.
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11-11-2012, 08:36 PM | #28 | ||
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Its almost laughable that he thinks it would take 18 months to move parts supplies to another supplier. They have switched suppliers before in a matter of days. Once the tooling is moved which could be done in a day or 2, then it doesn't take long to get them production ready and to spec. It would only take 18 months if the part had to be done from scratch with no tooling and a blank piece of paper.
Really shows how much he really knows, and it would resemble something you'd flush down the toilet. |
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12-11-2012, 10:34 AM | #29 | |||
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let alone the costs involved with such a move. I’d think his sources were reasonably accurate
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12-11-2012, 02:13 PM | #30 | |||
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even if they are moving all the tooling etc they have to get all ADR testing done for a new supplier weird I know but thats the law. this includs crash resting where the component is in any way involved in structure or restraint
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