Fines for vehicle defects SA

[ea90gl]

Just thought I'd give the SA members a heads up

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/motori...-1226058563490

So now (from July) if we check our brake lights then one happens to blow down the street we may cop a $120 fine then more to get the sticker off what a joke. They're expecting millions from this so no doubt the cops will be on the prowl

[BHDOGS]

The biggest load of **** ive ever heard as most ford ppl know the brake light switch on eseries cars blow alot having to pay 120 bucks fine because it decided to **** itself infront of a cop car is utter ********

[pottery beige]

blaa blaa.. carry spare globe......

[BHDOGS]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

blaa blaa.. carry spare globe......

And a spare brake light switch? And windscreen wipers? and replacements tyres and new mirrors incase someone hits them when your parked oh yes and all interior lights aswell as dash lights infact just bring a replacement car so no minor defects ever befall u.

[FGII-XR6]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

blaa blaa.. carry spare globe......

you miss the point, even if you check the lights every time you drive off I( and we all do that every time /sarcasm ) if the bulb blows when you are driving you get fined, this is revenue raising gestapo style, minor defects like this should just be the cop letting you know so you can replace the bulb

[sudszy]

Originally Posted by au3xr6

you miss the point, even if you check the lights every time you drive off I( and we all do that every time /sarcasm ) if the bulb blows when you are driving you get fined, this is revenue raising gestapo style, minor defects like this should just be the cop letting you know so you can replace the bulb

cmon, what are the chances of a globe going and being detected on the same day etc. Contrary to popular opinion, globes just dont blow at random, they age, they get thinner, brittle, they fail. Perhaps replace all the globes before they fail if you are that worried.

Myself, Ill cop the fine if one of my globes spits the dummy in front of a police car. If its gets all the weasels to change their ways who drive around for eternity with defects to change their ways, small price to pay....if it ever happens.

I can see perhaps some leeway being granted in these inspections, one globe out, speak nicely to plod, demonstrate your commitment to safety:"thanks officer, got a spare here, Ill put it in right now". But a couple of globes out(must of just happened officer..sure) or a headlight out, or attitude to plod, then "fine" is fine.

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by au3xr6

you miss the point, even if you check the lights every time you drive off I( and we all do that every time /sarcasm ) if the bulb blows when you are driving you get fined, this is revenue raising gestapo style, minor defects like this should just be the cop letting you know so you can replace the bulb

not all cops are ****s ey..... deadset you would have to fail the attitude test BIGTIME and or get caught up to something really ****en stupid to be hit for the big $120 blown tail light.... yeah i carry em as i get around in a banged up old Falcon......

[blueoval]

What the hell is this country coming to? Words cannot describe the disgust I have for this blatant grab for cash. F in stupid.

[Jim Goose]

And the difference now is what?
(Apart from a higher fine)

Blown bulbs is a defect.... the cost of the fine is however over the top.
It also depends on the Cop and your attitude when pulled over.
He can still let you go with a warning...

[ratter]

There has always been a fine for driving an unroadworthy vehicle in Vic, I would have thought the other states would be the same.

In Vic the police do not often apply the fine as far as I know

[xisled]

Originally Posted by ratter

There has always been a fine for driving an unroadworthy vehicle in Vic, I would have thought the other states would be the same.

In Vic the police do not often apply the fine as far as I know

It is up to the officer to give you the fine. I copped a $300 fine for driving an unroadworthy car about 2 years ago. I had 2 blue number plate lights and my handbrake was not adjusted correctly. It clicked 9 times instead of 5.

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by xisled

It is up to the officer to give you the fine. I copped a $300 fine for driving an unroadworthy car about 2 years ago. I had 2 blue number plate lights and my handbrake was not adjusted correctly. It clicked 9 times instead of 5.

that deserved three years in G division for the gay blue lights alone.....

[xisled]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

that deserved three years in G division for the gay blue lights alone.....

LOL I agree. I have grown up in the last 2 years.

[84xespac]

Have to say big deal guys. They have had fines for un roadworthy vehicles everywhere else in the country for years.
Does SA even have rwc yet or is it still like it was 10yrs ago where as long as it had SA plates you could rego without any form of check?

[sudszy]

blah, blah.....geez maybe people will start checking their lights more often, hope the fine for only one working headlight is double.....but motoring enthusiasts prefer people in cars that are unroadworthy?

[FreddyDUZ747]

Originally Posted by sudszy

blah, blah.....geez maybe people will start checking their lights more often, hope the fine for only one working headlight is double.....but motoring enthusiasts prefer people in cars that are unroadworthy?

please please please Thankyou.

As above,nothing new just higher fine/revenue,so nothing new

[ea90gl]

Originally Posted by sudszy

blah, blah.....geez maybe people will start checking their lights more often, hope the fine for only one working headlight is double.....but motoring enthusiasts prefer people in cars that are unroadworthy?

So you see the same cars regularly with one working headlight? You know for sure these owners are aware their front light is out yet go out there way to do nothing about it? Same goes for a blown tail light... How can you honestly think its ok to fine someone who's light could have blown a minute before they got pulled up? Getting pinged for bald tyres, smokey motors, loose items/loads is fair enough but getting pinged for blown globes is a joke

[sudszy]

Originally Posted by ea90gl

So you see the same cars regularly with one working headlight? You know for sure these owners are aware their front light is out yet go out there way to do nothing about it?

Either way they deserve the fine, if they dont know its out, they shouldnt be on the road and need a fine to wake them up! Of course they know its out, but they drive the pos anyway because they are too lazy to work out how to fix it or will get it seen to next time the car is serviced!!! The car shouldnt move without two working headlights!, its dangerous as! Same as when people connect trailers with the lamps not working, of course they know, but they dont give a stuff.

Originally Posted by ea90gl

How can you honestly think its ok to fine someone who's light could have blown a minute before they got pulled up?

Tough love im afraid, people should be checking their lights on a regular basis, not waiting for plod to tell them they arent working. Really what are the chances that they go one minute before plod is on your tail? I check mine all mine once a week, but really what is so hard to check them on a daily basis. Its up to the driver to make sure of all these things, and do something about them if they arent right before taking off, this hopefully will change behaviour.

[svo supporter]

Originally Posted by sudszy

Either way they deserve the fine, if they dont know its out, they shouldnt be on the road and need a fine to wake them up! Of course they know its out, but they drive the pos anyway because they are too lazy to work out how to fix it or will get it seen to next time the car is serviced!!! The car shouldnt move without two working headlights!, its dangerous as! Same as when people connect trailers with the lamps not working, of course they know, but they dont give a stuff.

Don't need headlights during the day and not everyone goes out reguarly at night

Tough love im afraid, people should be checking their lights on a regular basis, not waiting for plod to tell them they arent working. Really what are the chances that they go one minute before plod is on your tail? I check mine all mine once a week, but really what is so hard to check them on a daily basis. Its up to the driver to make sure of all these things, and do something about them if they arent right before taking off, this hopefully will change behaviour.

Any globe can blow at anytime. I check mine reguarly (once a week too) and a copper has pulled me over because my brake lights didn't work. Turned out, the brake light switch shat itself, which is typical problem for later Falcons. (Mine's an EF BTW) Now is my car a POS becuase it happened and I did check them a few days prior

At the end of the day, be polite and good chance the coppers won't fine you, because of a small issue like a globe being blown. It'd be aimed at blantant ignorance, not petty crap

[ea90gl]

Originally Posted by sudszy

Really what are the chances that they go one minute before plod is on your tail?

Probably about the same chance as a tail light/headlight out causing an accident lol and if you still can't see a remaining light lit on the front of a car maybe you should discontinue all your driving after say 5pm

[Antwon]

Originally Posted by sudszy

Either way they deserve the fine, if they dont know its out, they shouldnt be on the road and need a fine to wake them up! Of course they know its out, but they drive the pos anyway because they are too lazy to work out how to fix it or will get it seen to next time the car is serviced!!! The car shouldnt move without two working headlights!, its dangerous as! Same as when people connect trailers with the lamps not working, of course they know, but they dont give a stuff.



Tough love im afraid, people should be checking their lights on a regular basis, not waiting for plod to tell them they arent working. Really what are the chances that they go one minute before plod is on your tail? I check mine all mine once a week, but really what is so hard to check them on a daily basis. Its up to the driver to make sure of all these things, and do something about them if they arent right before taking off, this hopefully will change behaviour.

You sir, are one of the biggest enders ive ever come across.

If someone checks their lights and they are all working, then 5 mins down the road a brake light blows, then they turn a corner and a cop pulls them over, then how the **** is it their fault?! You cant predict when a bulb will blow. Idiot.

[RAREV8]

You check you lights once a week? How irresponsible of you.........you could be driving around for 7 days with defected or non working lights on your car.

I hope you don't cause an accident due to your negligence.

Originally Posted by sudszy

Either way they deserve the fine, if they dont know its out, they shouldnt be on the road and need a fine to wake them up! Of course they know its out, but they drive the pos anyway because they are too lazy to work out how to fix it or will get it seen to next time the car is serviced!!! The car shouldnt move without two working headlights!, its dangerous as! Same as when people connect trailers with the lamps not working, of course they know, but they dont give a stuff.



Tough love im afraid, people should be checking their lights on a regular basis, not waiting for plod to tell them they arent working. Really what are the chances that they go one minute before plod is on your tail? I check mine all mine once a week, but really what is so hard to check them on a daily basis. Its up to the driver to make sure of all these things, and do something about them if they arent right before taking off, this hopefully will change behaviour.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by sudszy

blah, blah.....geez maybe people will start checking their lights more often, hope the fine for only one working headlight is double.....but motoring enthusiasts prefer people in cars that are unroadworthy?

And he(it) arrives right on cue to participate in the thread.


I could read the title of each thread and point out which ones scuddy will post in, and which ones he wont.

Originally Posted by sudszy

Either way they deserve the fine, if they dont know its out, they shouldnt be on the road and need a fine to wake them up! Of course they know its out, but they drive the pos anyway because they are too lazy to work out how to fix it or will get it seen to next time the car is serviced!!! The car shouldnt move without two working headlights!, its dangerous as!

No one should be on the road whos light might happen blow suddenly. How could they do such a terrible, dangerous thing and drive a car when there is a risk a light might blow!! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!!

If its so dangerous to have a car with 1 head light, why do bikes have 1 head light?

If my headlight goes out Ill just whack on my fog lights. Then Ill basically have 3 headlights!!!!!!
Now ill wait for scudy to tell me that I should be fined $2000 and be jail for 6 months for using fog lights in clear weather.

[sudszy]

Originally Posted by Ben73

And he(it) arrives right on cue to participate in the thread.


If its so dangerous to have a car with 1 head light, why do bikes have 1 head light?.

Right on cue Ben, you display your ignorance of basic road craft/safety again.

You and others dont understand what is so dangerous about a CAR driving around with only one headlight? are there others that dont know either, the mind boggles? but I suppose that's why we have to have laws and people that enforce them, some members of the public just dont get it.

[svo supporter]

Originally Posted by sudszy

Right on cue Ben, you display your ignorance of basic road craft/safety again.

You and others dont understand what is so dangerous about a CAR driving around with only one headlight? are there others that dont know either, the mind boggles? but I suppose that's why we have to have laws and people that enforce them, some members of the public just dont get it.

Got a favour to ask of you. Could you run down to your local servo for me and buy a 5 3/4" or even a 7' sealed beam headlight for me. Got one out on my Val and my Centura. Don't want to run the risk of getting hooked $120, for having a dangerous car now and I do need to go out tonight.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by sudszy

Right on cue Ben, you display your ignorance of basic road craft/safety again.

You and others dont understand what is so dangerous about a CAR driving around with only one headlight? are there others that dont know either, the mind boggles? but I suppose that's why we have to have laws and people that enforce them, some members of the public just dont get it.

Enlighten us with your vast knowledge oh mighty one

[Fireblade]

Originally Posted by sudszy

blah, blah.....geez maybe people will start checking their lights more often, hope the fine for only one working headlight is double.....but motoring enthusiasts prefer people in cars that are unroadworthy?

And the AFF Caped Crusader is here to save the day, get off your soapbox because you ain't perfect so stop pretending your making Baby Jesus cry.

[93EB_SXR6]

Mmmm, I'm regularly having to change over my Gf's tail/brake light globes in her Charade (am still trying to figure out the problem - bloody Korean cars, I thought at first it wasn't earthed correctly, now I think its a current-surge problem) and she really can't afford to cop a big fine like that just because her car blows globes every now and then.

I always check her lights when I'm over/when shes leaving so its not as if she goes for long with the globe busted, and its only ever the left tail light or brake light that goes.

I've been pulled over to look for defects before, the police have always been fairly cool about it all and if you're polite and answer their questions they usually don't give you much trouble... I don't think this increased fine will change things.

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by Professor_Evans

Mmmm, I'm regularly having to change over my Gf's tail/brake light globes in her Charade (am still trying to figure out the problem - bloody Korean cars, I thought at first it wasn't earthed correctly, now I think its a current-surge problem) and she really can't afford to cop a big fine like that just because her car blows globes every now and then.

I always check her lights when I'm over/when shes leaving so its not as if she goes for long with the globe busted, and its only ever the left tail light or brake light that goes.

I've been pulled over to look for defects before, the police have always been fairly cool about it all and if you're polite and answer their questions they usually don't give you much trouble... I don't think this increased fine will change things.

pass the attitude test and your on your way..... yer sucks as a cash grab but can only see the odd carry on like an *** hat coppin da $1.20 treatment......

[Ducati888]

Originally Posted by Professor_Evans

Mmmm, I'm regularly having to change over my Gf's tail/brake light globes in her Charade (am still trying to figure out the problem - bloody Korean cars, I thought at first it wasn't earthed correctly, now I think its a current-surge problem) and she really can't afford to cop a big fine like that just because her car blows globes every now and then.

I always check her lights when I'm over/when shes leaving so its not as if she goes for long with the globe busted, and its only ever the left tail light or brake light that goes.

I've been pulled over to look for defects before, the police have always been fairly cool about it all and if you're polite and answer their questions they usually don't give you much trouble... I don't think this increased fine will change things.

I find it interesting that you blame the tail light problem on it being Korean. I spend a lot of time in traffic, and without a doubt the most common car to have brake light failures is the Commodore.

It can be solved by putting the LED 2 way globes in. I put one in my Ducati tail light and it went from blowing the brake element every second day to never blowing it again.

I think that cars with two blown brake lights (and only the centre window one in operation) should be canaried. It's reasonable to assume a driver doesn't know about one light being out, but two is just negligence. It's very common to see this scenario on the Nepean Hwy in Melb, where I spend a lot of time.