no more unleaded by 2011?

epson · 05-02-2010, 06:24 PM

hey guys,

Went to a servo this morning to fill up my car, turned up at one of the bowsers and noticed only diesel and e10, thought my mistake reversed out when to the next bowser, same thing again no unleaded or premium? went to every bowser there to only find gas, diesel and e10. I was thinking WTF is Going on? Have i gone nuts or wat?

I jumped out of the car went inside and had a chat to the bloke at the counter, he told me that the bowsers had all been swapped because unleaded was going to be banned in 2011. Some new thing Rudd is bringing in, i Didn't know if he was just telling stories so id buy the e10 or not, had to go down the road to get some unleaded.

I have never heard or read anywhere about this new rule? You would think it would have been a big thing on the news at some stage? The only thing i can find on the net is another forum website: http://www.exploroz.com/Forum/Topic/....aspx%3Fpn%3D1

Has any one else heard anything about it?

Gaz · 05-02-2010, 06:31 PM

You a queenslander?

from 2011 I believe you will only have e10's or premium, but not all unleaded.

Marquis 351 · 05-02-2010, 06:32 PM

I havent heard any thing.... Is that gonna hert the older cars? I ren the higher octain fuel with a led replacment in my V8.

Bucknaked · 05-02-2010, 06:34 PM

NSW and QLD.

Theres sevveral threads on this.

91 is going. 95 and 98 will stay

epson · 05-02-2010, 06:40 PM

must be ACT to, thats where i was.

epson · 05-02-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucknaked

NSW and QLD.

Theres sevveral threads on this.

91 is going. 95 and 98 will stay

The guy I was talking to at the servo said no unleaded no premium and there were no premium pumps, all e10.

Outback · 05-02-2010, 06:57 PM

cool im glad E10 is staying i run my brand new F6 on it and it runs like a dream.

epson · 05-02-2010, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Outback

cool im glad E10 is staying i run my brand new F6 on it and it runs like a dream.

It's prolly ok in short term, if i had an f6 i would not put ******** fuel through it.

Outback · 05-02-2010, 07:12 PM

petrol is petrol
all burns the same

robbyg · 05-02-2010, 06:59 PM

same thing happened to me at the servos on the f3 up to newcastle, no unleaded as such e10 or 95 or 98, was in me partners pulsar at the time so just tipped in the e10, to be honest i dont know whats happening with this fuel stuff, what do people do who have older cars suppost to run them on

**DJM83** · 05-02-2010, 07:04 PM

98 or broke

Mr Hardware · 05-02-2010, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

98 or broke

98'll make you broke more like it

i hate this, this is so stupid. When i drive the govt cars with the Ethanol stickers on the back i purposely put in non-e10 regular 91 unleaded

**** YOU ANNA IM STILL MAD ABOUT LAST YEARS LACK OF ANZAC DAY HOLIDAY

**SSD-85** · 05-02-2010, 07:11 PM

x2 on Anzac Day Mr Hardware. But on topic, e10 does not bother me. Both my AUs are happily running on it. Unsure of what to expect with my XL though.

Fairlane · 05-02-2010, 07:18 PM

98 or Ethanol seems to be way where pushing us. With this manadated ethanol content by the state governments, 91 is dead.

Unfortunately however most servos have gotten rid of their 95 Premium to accomodate E10, or small noozle Diesel, so you are forced to get 98 at a rip off price.

Mr Hardware · 05-02-2010, 07:21 PM

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x2 on Anzac Day Mr Hardware

Too right. Especially as other states got it and we are getting it this year, even though it's on a weekend again.
Now i'm not getting political, i'm just stating that this is an injustice as it's not like i do nothing on the 25th, this year I'll be marching again!

myxr6 · 05-02-2010, 07:48 PM

This will affect a lot of older cars.Look on the list of cars that are not compatible with e10.

http://www.fcai.com.au/environment/c...l-blend-petrol

Copie · 05-02-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by myxr6

This will affect a lot of older cars.Look on the list of cars that are not compatible with e10.

http://www.fcai.com.au/environment/c...l-blend-petrol

Hence why i said except for that list. Which is rather small in comparison to the vast model range we have within Australia.

**M&Ms** · 05-02-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by epson

hey guys,

Some new thing Rudd is bringing in

Not the least bit surprised this knob of a PM doing something like this - trying to look like he's rescuing planet earth while cashing in from it all ... How can any petrol company justify charging 14-16c per litre more for 98 octane fuel than 91 unleaded???? Hopefully Kruddy's not here in 2011 to see it all.....

Jim Goose · 05-02-2010, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by M&Ms

Not the least bit surprised this knob of a PM doing something like this - trying to look like he's rescuing planet earth while cashing in from it all ... How can any petrol company justify charging 14-16c per litre more for 98 octane fuel than 91 unleaded???? Hopefully Kruddy's not here in 2011 to see it all.....

This has nothing to do with the federal government....

It was reported in the QLD media 2 weeks ago folks, seems most people dont care or dont listen. TV , Radio and newspapers...

The fuel companies THEMSELVES are pushing to REMOVE THE PRODUCTION of unleaded!

This is again another blatent example of how these companies rip us off...

Copie · 05-02-2010, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Goose

This has nothing to do with the federal government....

It was reported in the QLD media 2 weeks ago folks, seems most people dont care or dont listen. TV , Radio and newspapers...

The fuel companies THEMSELVES are pushing to REMOVE THE PRODUCTION of unleaded!

This is again another blatent example of how these companies rip us off...

No its been legislation for a few years now, brought in by Howard, not by KRudd.

And if E10 was damaging to specialist rubber seals and plastic components, they would transport and store it differently.

Dont know why people are getting so up in arms about it.

Oh and the government makes a set price off fuel via fuel levys and taxes, they dont make extra off 95 and 98, the price difference is to counter the extra refinerie and additive times.

blownv8au · 05-02-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Copie

No its been legislation for a few years now, brought in by Howard, not by KRudd.

And if E10 was damaging to specialist rubber seals and plastic components, they would transport and store it differently.

Dont know why people are getting so up in arms about it.

Oh and the government makes a set price off fuel via fuel levys and taxes, they dont make extra off 95 and 98, the price difference is to counter the extra refinerie and additive times.

They don't make any extra off 95 and 98? You must not have heard of gst then. 10% of $1.38l 98 is going to make them more than 10% of $1.30l 91 isn't it.

Copie · 05-02-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pjm58

They don't make any extra off 95 and 98? You must not have heard of gst then. 10% of $1.38l 98 is going to make them more than 10% of $1.30l 91 isn't it.

Fuel is taxed twice, its taxed at the refinery level (last i heard its like 60-70c per litre) and just your standard GST when the servo purchases it.

Noone is making you buy 98 octane unless your tuned for it (you caused it) or the car has to run on it (again thats what you get for spending huge amounts of cash on a hypo car)

**redxm** · 05-02-2010, 08:01 PM

Of course
remove the cheaper option and force all older cars to premium, How else would they be able to raise more tax

durtyharry · 06-02-2010, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by redxm

Of course
remove the cheaper option and force all older cars to premium, How else would they be able to raise more tax

increase income tax?
increase tax on cigs?
increase tax on large screen plasmas?
sugar laden soft drinks?
increase tax on baseball caps that are worn backwards...

basically anyway they see fit.

GS608 · 05-02-2010, 10:45 PM

So basically we're being stripped of choice, they are dictating the way in which we purchase our fuel. This, the net filter, among other things slowly taking away our right to a choice of product..what next? remove 95 and 98 and only sell E10 at the 98 price?

Jim Goose · 05-02-2010, 11:07 PM

Bingo

xbrules · 05-02-2010, 11:26 PM

I'm gonna have to get off my backside and join smasa, I want to run my car on avgas to see what it's like. 105-110 octane is available from the OG speed shop here in adelaide if you are a member of a car club.

Ohio XB · 06-02-2010, 05:35 AM

Here in the US, years ago, they used to put what you call E10 in the tanks at the filling stations without any difference in rating. Basically, they just said "Now with 10% ethanol for a cleaner environment." It was just done in the winter months here in Ohio, when the cold temperatures would make up for the power loss.

Now ALL gasoline in Ohio, and many other States, always contain 10% ethanol, and the Federal Government is looking to raise it up to 15%, even though there is all kinds of evidence that cars built before 2001 will have problems with it.

The reason here is because several years ago when ethanol was all the rage the government passed legislation for how much will be produced in this country. Well, the anxiousness to develope an ethanol infrastructure dried up when the price of gasoline came back down from the global price increase. Now the producers of ethanol have no market for their product, and to meet the production targets of the legislation the Federal Government is looking to ruin cars built before 2001 in order to increase the amount of ethanol in our gasoline, just so that the legislation can be upheld.

Our cars run fine on the E10 including my wife's 66 Mustang. The E15 scares me though. Do some research online and you will find articles about how bad it can, and has, hurt car engines.

Steve

Jim Goose · 06-02-2010, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by xbrules

I'm gonna have to get off my backside and join smasa, I want to run my car on avgas to see what it's like. 105-110 octane is available from the OG speed shop here in adelaide if you are a member of a car club.

I dunno where they are getting it from, but the sale of AVGAS to other then non-aviation related individuals/ companies is illegal (yes serously).

The only way to fiddle it is to own an aircraft and then buy drum stocks and sell it from the drum stocks. However in most states it is illegal due to fire regulations to keep more then one 200ltr drum in your back yard!

As for businesses keeping drums of fuel in their workshop.... I would garantee that their insurance company would not give them one red cent if the building caught fire and it was discovered that AVGAS was being stored there..

kezzer · 06-02-2010, 09:39 AM

THIS PLACE IS A ****************** PRISON, ON PLANET BULL****, IN THE GALAXY OF THIS SUCKS CAMEL *****

haha, im in Vic and this is yet to happen, but basically, they restrict your choice, to e10 , 95 and 98, then in another few years they will probably drop 95, another year 98, then up the price of e10, its a win/win for the government and oil companies.