Pulled over by Highway Patrol

GTP 330KW · 21-06-2008, 11:02 AM

Can any Victorian members tell me if I can expect a fine in the mail. Driving home to Mt. Gambier, SA on Wednesday night I was pulled over for speeding ten K's out of Glenthompson. After a licence check and breatho he sent me on my way without giving me any paperwork. I should probably add that I was a fair way over the speed limit. :togo:

flappist · 21-06-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GTP 330KW

Can any Victorian members tell me if I can expect a fine in the mail. Driving home to Mt. Gambier, SA on Wednesday night I was pulled over for speeding ten K's out of Glenthompson. After a licence check and breatho he sent me on my way without giving me any paperwork. I should probably add that I was a fair way over the speed limit. :togo:

Did he ask you if you had a reason that you were speeding?
How much over? You may get breached and have to appear in court or he may have run out of TONs and you were lucky.....

Venomous · 21-06-2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GTP 330KW

Can any Victorian members tell me if I can expect a fine in the mail. Driving home to Mt. Gambier, SA on Wednesday night I was pulled over for speeding ten K's out of Glenthompson. After a licence check and breatho he sent me on my way without giving me any paperwork. I should probably add that I was a fair way over the speed limit. :togo:

Huh ?

GTP 330KW · 21-06-2008, 11:19 AM

He did ask me why I was speeding. I was clocked at 125 in a 100 zone. I told him that we were on our way home from the Peter MacCallum Cancer Institute where we had just received some devastating news regarding our 19 year old son and were just keen to get home to our family and friends. I admit that there should be no excuse for speeding but under the circumstances I really didn't care.

flappist · 21-06-2008, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GTP 330KW

He did ask me why I was speeding. I was clocked at 125 in a 100 zone. I told him that we were on our way home from the Peter MacCallum Cancer Institute where we had just received some devastating news regarding our 19 year old son and were just keen to get home to our family and friends. I admit that there should be no excuse for speeding but under the circumstances I really didn't care.

At only 25km/h over I suspect he has let you go, breaches are usually only issued over 45km/h (well that is up here but they are all pretty much the same now). I am also sorry to hear about your son, cancer is never fair but in a 19 year old it is an absolute tragedy.

**GasoLane** · 21-06-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

At only 25km/h over I suspect he has let you go, breaches are usually only issued over 45km/h (well that is up here but they are all pretty much the same now).

OH? when did this unusual fit of leniency start?....Especially in QLD.

45k's over here will get you a $1,600 fine and 6 points !

colac471 · 21-06-2008, 08:40 PM

In Victoria 25 km's over is an immediate loss of license and court appearance.

MO · 21-06-2008, 08:43 PM

I got done for11k over so don't think 45 is real.

**DJM83** · 22-06-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

OH? when did this unusual fit of leniency start?....Especially in QLD.

45k's over here will get you a $1,600 fine and 6 points !

Yep thats true i copped that, 114 in 60 zone $1515 fine and 6 months (NSW). Before anyone flames me IT WAS STUPID and i copped it on the chin, afew years ago now and not another one yet.

flappist · 22-06-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

OH? when did this unusual fit of leniency start?....Especially in QLD.

45k's over here will get you a $1,600 fine and 6 points !

A TON (Traffic offence notice) or "ticket" is usually issued on the spot. A breech of the traffic act is usually issued by summons for greater offences. e.g. 100km/h over will usually attract dangerous driving rather than speeding.

I suspect PIN is Victorian for TON as Redrum has a fairly good inside knowlege of what goes on down there

FGII-XR6 · 23-06-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

OH? when did this unusual fit of leniency start?....Especially in QLD.

45k's over here will get you a $1,600 fine and 6 points !

and a 6month holiday from driving
in NSW it is
30K over 3 months off the road
45K over 6months off the road
plus any period from the loss of points so you could possibly add 3 months to that depending on your points status and maybe double demerits

Fev · 23-06-2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

OH? when did this unusual fit of leniency start?....Especially in QLD.

45k's over here will get you a $1,600 fine and 6 points !

40 kays over is immediate on the spot loss of license.. AND a $1600 fine

XRQTOR · 22-06-2008, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

At only 25km/h over I suspect he has let you go, breaches are usually only issued over 45km/h (well that is up here but they are all pretty much the same now). I am also sorry to hear about your son, cancer is never fair but in a 19 year old it is an absolute tragedy.

45+ in nsw is instant loss of licence & a court date.

**DJM83** · 23-06-2008, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by XRQTOR

45+ in nsw is instant loss of licence & a court date.

I never had to go to court and i was 54kmh over

kpcart · 24-06-2008, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by flappist

At only 25km/h over I suspect he has let you go, breaches are usually only issued over 45km/h (well that is up here but they are all pretty much the same now). I am also sorry to hear about your son, cancer is never fair but in a 19 year old it is an absolute tragedy.

breaches are usually issued at over 45km/h?????????????????????????????
dumbest thing i have ever read in this forum, if you believe that good luck to you! i will probably see you wrapped around a tree next weekend.
its comment to be breached being 10-15kmh over. which is fair enough, its so easy and intelligent to just follow the speed limit (you got a license agree that you would follow speed limits).
cops usually wont care if you make an excuse up like that (being real of not), but they are at times simpathetic and let you go but remind you to try to follow the rules. usually they give you a fine on the spot i would have thought, maybe its different in your state.

troppo · 21-06-2008, 11:18 AM

The first bolded bit states where he was pulled over, the second bit is him admitting he was a fair way over the speed limit.

Venomous · 21-06-2008, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by troppo

The first bolded bit states where he was pulled over, the second bit is him admitting he was a fair way over the speed limit.

Ah k, i get it now. In regards to being 25km/h over, we all say oh there's no excuse for speeding etc etc but everyone does it. Did he say he was actually giving you a fine?

And, sorry to hear that

MrEL · 21-06-2008, 11:48 AM

I reckon you could safely call that just a kick in the butt especially with the circumstances. Id be surprised if you get a ticket.

GTP 330KW · 21-06-2008, 11:51 AM

Thanks everyone. Like I said, there is no excuse, but perhaps he had a heart. Our future trips will be at the speed limit.

RG · 21-06-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GTP 330KW

Thanks everyone. Like I said, there is no excuse, but perhaps he had a heart. Our future trips will be at the speed limit.

Sometimes there is an excuse and a reason, something this cop obviously understands. Sorry to hear about the bad news.

GTP534 · 21-06-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GTP 330KW

Thanks everyone. Like I said, there is no excuse, but perhaps he had a heart.....

Let's hope so GTP 330KW. Sorry to hear you received devastating news about your son, let's hope also there may some future good news regarding him.

Redrum · 21-06-2008, 03:39 PM

If a PIN is not issued on the spot and they intend to issue one usually you are told at the time that a fine will be sent in the mail. As someone stated you will normally be asked your reason etc and in this conversation should be able to determine the outcome.

AUXRVIII · 21-06-2008, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrum

If a PIN is not issued on the spot and they intend to issue one usually you are told at the time that a fine will be sent in the mail. As someone stated you will normally be asked your reason etc and in this conversation should be able to determine the outcome.

Not for certain, I have been in a similar situation except I was told I MAY OR MAY NOT receive an infringement notice in the mail. At the time I felt confident I would get off based on the officers tone and body language, two days later the letter arrived.

**DJM83** · 21-06-2008, 01:08 PM

Sorry top hear of your sad news mate, and id understand that the number on the speedo to was irrelevent at the time. How all goes well

kyro_02 · 21-06-2008, 05:53 PM

Can anyone inform me what TONs and PIN stands for ? been wanting to get an answer for a while

Redrum · 23-06-2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kyro_02

Can anyone inform me what TONs and PIN stands for ? been wanting to get an answer for a while

Sorry

A PIN is a Penalty Infringment Notice, not sure about a TON.

**Captain Stubing** · 21-06-2008, 08:48 PM

I think you might have have struck it lucky, GTP 330KW. If he was going to issue a TON (Traffic Offence Notice) or PIN (maybe Penalty Infringement Notice?) he would have done it at the time, maybe he did take into consideration the news you had received.... hope all goes well for you with your son.

73gscoupe · 21-06-2008, 09:18 PM

You will almost certainly get a fine I would think. the last two times i have been pulled over it has been the scenario you described. it is unusual for them to issue any paperwork on the spot, one time the cop simply wrote down my details on a notepad, fine has come a week or two later. My opinion is that they do it to avoid confrontation.

gozza · 23-06-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 73gscoupe

it is unusual for them to issue any paperwork on the spot, confrontation.

Huh? Unusual?

I think its unusual for them to do it later - They have to write down offense times and locations - If they are writing it down on a notepad - they will have to do it again anyway.

It sounds like the Policeman has a brain - 125 is a 100 zone is not outrageous -

wet ones · 21-06-2008, 11:33 PM

Here in NSW all traffic infringement notices (TIN) have to issued within 7 days, unless there is further investigation and even then it is only 14 days. After that it is a court attendance.

Highway tend to issue TINs on the spot rather than have to catch up on them later in the shift.

Sorry to hear of you sons bad news, hope all works out for him.