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Old 04-07-2007, 08:20 PM   #1
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just wondering what aprenticships people think i should go for. im looking to start something or have something ste up for the start of next year.

id be really interested in doing something like with grand toura restorations but they arnt interested in anyone for over another year so yeah...

has to be in melb btw

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Old 04-07-2007, 08:23 PM   #2
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Boilermaker. I done one, now working as a pressure welder. Money is top dollar too.
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:35 PM   #3
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Boilermaker. I done one, now working as a pressure welder. Money is top dollar too.
bit off topic but im a 3rd year

and was wondering how to get in to pressure welding and how much ur gettin payyed
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:45 PM   #4
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bit off topic but im a 3rd year

and was wondering how to get in to pressure welding and how much ur gettin payyed

Got my ticket 7 (TIG Welding pressure pipe) in my 3rd year of my apprenticeship. Finished all my tradeschool start of 3rd year. The company I worked for, who I'm still with specialize in boiler shuts at the local power stations and pipe spooling (building pipelines).

Workshop rate for me as a welder is around 40 bucks an hr. 4th year I was getting 26 an hr as a boilermaker. All depends on what area your in, I'm in the Latrobe Valley so there's always plenty of breakdown/shut work on at any of the power stations.
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Got my ticket 7 (TIG Welding pressure pipe) in my 3rd year of my apprenticeship. Finished all my tradeschool start of 3rd year. The company I worked for, who I'm still with specialize in boiler shuts at the local power stations and pipe spooling (building pipelines).

Workshop rate for me as a welder is around 40 bucks an hr. 4th year I was getting 26 an hr as a boilermaker. All depends on what area your in, I'm in the Latrobe Valley so there's always plenty of breakdown/shut work on at any of the power stations.

cheers mate you got lucky working for a company that does pipe to start with all i do is strutal work for SAMARAS STRUTAL
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:26 PM   #6
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Construction/mining/diesel mechanic or something like landscaping. Areas in demand and offer top dollars.
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:27 PM   #7
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Pick up for crap and move to WA, thats what I would do.
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prefer something with car restoration other wise plumbing or landscaping, what do people rekon????
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:25 PM   #10
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prefer something with car restoration other wise plumbing or landscaping, what do people rekon????

plumbing an sparkies make good money because they are liscencd trades. Chippies do alright to if you look around abit...hehehe
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:41 PM   #11
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Well I do brick paving and it use to come under landscapping but as of next year(in SA, not sure about other states) you will be able to do a brick paving apprenticships. It's not bad work if you get a good boss, mines my dad and my brother, so it's hard for me to have sickies.
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im a 1st year diesel mechanic. Went from cars up to trucks and now im not looking back. There are so many opertunitys with heavy stream
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:56 PM   #13
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Pick a trade that gives you the opportunity to be self employed. A few years down the track you'll be cheering. You don't get rich working for someone else and a life spent on the tools is pretty mundane imho. The key is to choose something that doesn't require huge overheads of equipment and tools to showcase your skills

My pick in the current climate would be refrigeration mechanic
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Plumbing is a good option and has Huge potential in the future,

Dont really need big overheads to set up shop, just a van some tools and some sticky tape. :evil3:
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Plumbing is a good option and has Huge potential in the future,

Dont really need big overheads to set up shop, just a van some tools and some sticky tape. :evil3:
why did you get off the tools then?:P
Dont listen XR-351,pluming sucks the big one,I should know been doing it 22 years,me backs gone,hearings stuffed and im getting arthritis in my hands,not only that we all smoke and drink way too much,and have huge beer guts.
If you think that suits you,and you dont mind wearing stubbies and blue singlets in the middle of winter,go for it...
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why did you get off the tools then?:P
I'll get back onto the tools oneday. I sure dont miss handling copper on a cold rainy day though, or coming home with blue and red poisoned fingers lol
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Dont listen XR-351,pluming sucks the big one,I should know been doing it 22 years,me backs gone,hearings stuffed and im getting arthritis in my hands,not only that we all smoke and drink way too much,and have huge beer guts.
the physical grief can happen to most tradies in a lot of different fields, the smoking and drinking is nobody else's fault but yours.

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prefer something with car restoration other wise plumbing or landscaping, what do people rekon????
if i had done a bit more research, i would have done plumbing or electrical (domestic, not auto) with a preference to plumbing instead of vehicle mechanics. when you own your own house and start investing in real estate you'll realize why.
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the physical grief can happen to most tradies in a lot of different fields, the smoking and drinking is nobody else's fault but yours.



if i had done a bit more research, i would have done plumbing or electrical (domestic, not auto) with a preference to plumbing instead of vehicle mechanics. when you own your own house and start investing in real estate you'll realize why.
Oh lighten up will ya.
Its easy to say whats good and whats not when you look at it through rose coloured glasses,Best you get some actual experience in it before you offer advice,have a look at what the award wage is for them trades,
Im not on an award,Im a subbie,but most of the other blokes are on awards,real great money
All that for being poisoned slowly day by day..
We were on a good thing with eba's, basically the only real rises we'd had in twenty years,but thats going out the window now due to the economic tampering fairy(but thats a whole other story)
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whatever you choose, expect to work HARD and earn bugger all pay, unless you get a good employer who is happy to pay you proper wages. I did my landscape apprenticeship and when i got my trade certificate it is the best feeling to have accomplished something so significant, but boy did i earn every cent, especially when i was being charged out at $40-50/hour and earning $5/hour! but i learnt so much doing it and am a much better person because of it.

Nowdays, in cetain trades, the government will buy you like $600 worth of tools for your job, gotta love that
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Old 04-07-2007, 09:47 PM   #20
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Go for aircraft mechanic. Big dollars when you have done your 4 years
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Go for aircraft mechanic. Big dollars when you have done your 4 years

only sometimes if your a contractor

i left after my apprenticeship on about 19/hr including a small shift penalty. Im now doing another apprenticeship in the electrical industry and im on about 24/hr

you used to make big money on planes. Now, with the introduction of the EASA licensing system it'll only get harder

anything construction is where the $$$ are at
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Your kidding right? If thats the case, somebody better tell the industry that! Aviation is a good industry, if you enjoy working with your hands and work on different areas rather than just turning the spanners... pity all the regulation is killing it..

Do what you enjoy, not the big money jobs.. If you enjoy it, you will stick with it longer..

Some other industrys that are not what most people think about..

Refridgeation & Airconditioning, and security system installer.. Both have more work than you can ever want and pay well...
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[QUOTE=Me_3]Your kidding right? If thats the case, somebody better tell the industry that! Aviation is a good industry, if you enjoy working with your hands and work on different areas rather than just turning the spanners... pity all the regulation is killing it..

No im not kidding! My nephew just turned 22 has just got his first job after apprenticeship and is earning 58K. He also got his pilot licence that was paid for by the people who gave him the apprenticeship. The opportunity he has to advance and perhaps become a commercial pilot as well as being an aircraft engineer is great and he is set for life. :
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Would there be much landscaping work going on? with the drought and all i mean...




Not being a smartass BTW, just genuinely interested
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Would there be much landscaping work going on? with the drought and all i mean...




Not being a smartass BTW, just genuinely interested
With the water shortage, people are looking for waterwise gardens, basically natives, so they want to get rid of all that lawn out the back. Also landscaping isn't just plants. I learnt to build patios, sheds, limestone walls, brick walls, water features, water gardens/waterfalls, fencing, reticulation..bit more than your hack lawnmower man who calls himself a landscaper who can pull a few weeds and clean your gutters.
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With the water shortage, people are looking for waterwise gardens, basically natives, so they want to get rid of all that lawn out the back. Also landscaping isn't just plants. I learnt to build patios, sheds, limestone walls, brick walls, water features, water gardens/waterfalls, fencing, reticulation..bit more than your hack lawnmower man who calls himself a landscaper who can pull a few weeds and clean your gutters.
sounds like more fun than i thought, i like doing all those things.
Might look into it. Cheers slammer
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Would there be much landscaping work going on? with the drought and all i mean...




Not being a smartass BTW, just genuinely interested
I've been flat out since middle of last year, and just had a month off for wedding/honeymoon and still got a month or 2 in front of me. People are worried about lawns and gardens but most work seems to be paving or retaining walls for me or getting the gardens up to the planting stage and planting them out later. There are ways around it anyway, using natives or drought tolerant species.

As for an apprenticeship, I say go for it, for the few years you get crap wages you get yourself qualified, and at the end of it with more hard work you can start your own business and earn double what your mates have been on the term of your apprenticeship. Just pick your trade, restoring cars may be satisfying but I'de imagine it'd be hard to get into with not a lot doing it.
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I would have to agree with the guys that said pick a trade you can go out on your own latter.
Sparky,plumber,builder,plant mechanic,maintenance fitter as you dont want to work for someone all you life.

Im a maintenance fitter around $100k pa 3 days a week,and Im a bit lazy so I should be earning /working more.
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im looking into doing an electrical apprectiship. i really enjoy doing it and work experience gave me an extreamly good taste of what its like. so thats what i will be doing after yr 12
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im an Apprentice Machinist.
start my 4th year on Monday.
its a good job.

maybe do a Fitting/Turning app.
you can earn quite a few $$ as a Fitter.
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