R/C drifting

[STK-XR8]

im wanting to get into drifting r/c cars looks like absolute fun , just wondering if anybody here is into it and point me in the right direction what car, controller , where to buy from ,etc any advice would be great

whats the pros and cons of electric vs nitro




ta den

[Polyal]

Its pretty costly mate, a half decent car would be $500+ easy.

I think they have special tyres for drifting too, but they are cheap so no need to worry there. Look for a club in your local area.

[crusher]

Do not go nitro man. You can but there is too much of a risk of it overheating as its not moving as fast as normal and doesnt get the cooling.

One of the most popular cars is the TT01. Fairly simple chassis design but works very well.

Im looking into getting into it as well for a bit of fun and there are some good starter cars out there atm.

One new one is the HPI E10 cars. Come in Rx-7 or AE86 as Ready to run cars. All you need is a charger. Saw one in action today and for straight out of the box they run very well. The E-10 sells for roughly 250ish from memory.

If you buy a kit be prepared to spend some big $$. They will set you back probably around 250/300 for just the chassis etc. No radio gear or anything.

A RTR will be the cheapest and easiest way to start and then when your good (As its not as easy as it looks. When I first tried it I thought itd be easy. wroooonnngggg.) and prepared to sink more money in buy a good kit and go for it.

Hopefully there are some racers in here that can put in some more advice.

[HLC]

go Electric for drfting.



i have a nitro car which i set up for drift, and whilst i am no good at it. too much **** goes wrong. my dad snapped the conrod in his Nitro car, and ive ****** the front diff in mine some how. not to mention everything thing else ******* up. tuning etc.



with electrics, they are just easier IMO. AND torque is always 100% when you get on the throttle. with Nitro torque is not 100% on demand.




im still fairly amateur with this stuff. but those are my experiences. i bought a 500 car, and have probably sunk close to 1000 into it since.

[eb_5litre]

Just buy any electric car and put some drift tyres on it... simple as. And dont waste your money on "special" drift tyres.... all the need is the right diameter PVC pipe glued onto a set of cheap rims.

[Falcon Freak]

Originally Posted by STK-XR8

im wanting to get into drifting r/c cars looks like absolute fun , just wondering if anybody here is into it and point me in the right direction what car, controller , where to buy from ,etc any advice would be great

whats the pros and cons of electric vs nitro

ta den

I suggest you contact these guys for RC info - http://www.serccc.com.au/index.html or this forum - http://www.rctech.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=29

FF

[mrniceguy]

Yeah electrics the way to go for drifting. Personally i like nitro monster trucks though!

[eb_5litre]

Originally Posted by mrniceguy

Yeah electrics the way to go for drifting. Personally i like nitro monster trucks though!

Same here.

[JACK250]

Here's a youtube link to some RC drifting;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PGNFEvmvGw

[XYGTHO]

Mate ive just got into this myself. I bought my ready to run car with spares, charger and battery etc for under $100 from ebay brand new. I have a mate right into it who spent a few hundred on a Tamiya one and bought one of these and sold his expensive one cause he reckons there better. They are 4wd shaft driven. Go bout 60km/h. He uses PVC pipe on his wheels for drifting. Personally i found this tap i have which is smooth and kinda like plastic works best. I just wrap it round the tyres. Lats ages and drifts good. Not uncrontrolable and slides pretty easy. Youl just have to buy a bigger battery cause the one that come with it only last bout 10min.

This is the same one. They are a take off of the Tamiya series. I got mine off ebay but doesn't look like there are anu one there anymore. You can order one through these guys though.
http://www.rctoysaustralia.com.au/product_31.html

[DJM83]

God this makes me want another R/C car, ive had 2 gas cars but id buy an electric one as gas cars involve way to much fiddling

[4.9 EF Futura]

hmm.. im into offroad but hearing a few things about onroad is unavoidable

The TT01 is a good call if you have no other intentions for the car besides drift. The chassis isnt competetive for racing.

If you want something of better quality than a basic TTo1, look at the Yokomo drifters (these things come ready to run IIRC) and the hobao hyper 10 are also popular.

The most comprehensive aussie forums ive come across are:

http://www.rctech.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=29

Good for sale forums there, honest bunch of sellers.

Personally i like nitro monster trucks though!

So did i until i got into brushless electric offroad! Poor old nitro MT gathering dust because electric is so damned quick!! So it should for $500 of speed controller + motor

Pros and cons:

Despite what you hear, there is more maintenance for a hot electric motor than there is for nitro. Just lots of cleaning crud off of nitro motors With electrics, you have to lathe the commutators, replace the brushes, springs etc.

Unless you go brushless... nitro killing power (you wont believe this until you see it) + no maintenance.

[M&Ms]

I was never really into RC until I placed a bid on a brand new TT-01 F430 Ferrari on ebay and won it for $81 (and that included an ESC!). Hobbyco has it RRP at $199 by itself. I finish uni exams tomorrow and gonna get straight into building it. Might post pics if people are interested.

Actually, why don't people post up pics of their toys??? Would enrich this thread a whole lot more!

[4.9 EF Futura]

Originally Posted by M&Ms

Actually, why don't people post up pics of their toys???

Nitro.... ewwww!

[eb_5litre]

I had an electric Tamiya I got off ebay for a brief period... I never could get over the lack of engine noise though so sold it.

[rodderz]

My mate has just got a HPI chassis kit and a Novak Brushless system and holy hell is it fast, nitro has its place but brushless electrics will be stealing some of its potential users for its ease and low maintenance, and its clean too.

If you can afford it buy brushless, nitro guys will hate you (sorry nitro guys)!! Its not cheap but well worth it.

[Falcon Freak]

I watched both nitro and electric RC cars and I prefer the nitro because I love the sound and smell of their engines. The electric cars are fast but just don't stimulate the senses as much.

FF

[crusher]

They dont but they are alot less hassle for those that just want a RTR toy they can pull out of the cupboard whenever they want and not really have to worry about it.

Nitro takes alot of time and prep work if you want to get the best out of it and keep it running well. Plus the nitro motors are easy to blow up if you dont do it right.

[castek]

i personally dont drift, but i have been racing for a few years now. i started off with nitro, but paying $800 for an engine, which is gonna be pulled apart and bored out, costs tooo much.
i have bought a tamiya tt-01 now. and let me tell you, straight out of the box, its a grouse little thing. awesome to hammer around the backyard or street. so far i;ve spent $200 on mods, which includes a new race motor, and new speed control, just about everything is now fully adjustable, and new rims and tyres. i keep up with the guys that have spent $700 just on a chassis.

[falzoony]

ey champ my mate is in to it... he reckons go electric becos its easyer to handle and less troubles.. he has a *** drifta which is electric. the reason behind going electric is u dnt need much top speed, just torque. he just updated his ESC (electronic speed controller) and motor n it flys, lots of torque. all u really need is a all wheel drive car (all wheel drive 4 easier handling) and some drift tyres, either bought or home made with poly pipe. a good starter car is a tamiya TT-01 or TT-01Drift or TT-01Race (race and drift r more expensive) as its a basic drive shaft driven car with alot of after market parts... and it fairly cheap. if u wanna get straight into it with a top of the range car which he highly recomends, altho its expensive is a yokomo drift package. saying that tho its all up to u champ... ur best bet would be goin to a hobby store n gettin there advice.

[falzoony]

good site: www.groovydrift.com

[STK-XR8]

update

well im the proud new owner of a Tamiya TT01 D chassis with a wrx shell,

brought a couple of upgrade bits just a 14 turn motor (quicker than the factory one), futabo pistol grip controller with built in adjustments ,gts pro sport electronic speed control, swallow 2 charger ,bigger batterys.

all up from hearns hobby's in melb with a modest discount $900.00
i know it seems a bit for all this but i was thinking that buy it once no need to upgrade for a while , guy reckons will keep up with most nitro cars without the mateneince hassles.

stay tuned for some photos


den

[castek]

the tt-01d chassis are great cars. what brand motor did you get? i'm running a 17 turn double, and it hammers, can imagine how hard yours will go.
the only thing you'll need is spare front end parts, like wishbones etc. and they are really cheap. i suggest US ebay for parts, very cheap

[4.9 EF Futura]

14 turn will have some STINK on it!! Be sure to gear it appropriately and keep an eye on the temps... thats the key to making these motors last. If you cant hold your finger on it... its too hot

Swallow charger is a great unit, i use the previous version (12v DC only input) at a competetive racing level.

Sounds like you're setup.

[Sick EB]

i have a TT01 but i just use it for up and down the road. you need to upgrade from the stock motor because it just is not strong enough to spin all the wheels. a couple of good batterys is a must aswell. you dont want to have to bring it in every 10min to change the batterys... i have tryed drifting with it but it is very hard to control. it needs a bit of a break, turn the wrong way then flick it into drift. and if you get one dont make it 2 wheel drive (take out the shaft) it does not work. lol.

[STK-XR8]

motor is a double wind 14 turn krypton krystal brand
battery is a 4200

yeah goin to buy some spares just in case i hit something not movable

lookin on ebay for some upgrade shockers and a couple of strut braces and what ever else i find


all fun n games

[Martyvan]

I have a TT-01 with a Focus Body Shell. Have a 19 Turn Venon motor in it... have adjusted the gearing, have a 3600mah battery in it.. have a pretty standard sort of charger I also have a Futaba ESC that will deal with a bit more, with the standard radial look alike, it will drift pretty well, Im in the process of ordering some aluminium suspension bits, and some oil shockies, plus given i let my dad drive it, i need to paint the whole front end... he all just blistered and fell off. I even paint matched the colour as close as possible to my Ink Blue Focus I wouldnt mind having a race on a track, but Im not sure what all the regulations are with mods and stuff, i guess i should just go down to the track one night and ask the hard questions!

I would estimate top speed at around 45kph on the street... but i dont have a smooth street..... so that could be less due to wheel spin...

On top of this i have a Tamiya DF02 Gravel Hound Buggy... Which is also in line for some suspension/engine upgrades, and potential to have a go in a class at the somewhat local RC Off Road club (BDR for those that know)

Its amazing how much fun you can have with these things, the Drifting thing at about 35-40kph is awesome fun, my dad has a 50metre long driveway, which is 2 cars wide, so plenty of run off if you lose it...

Anyway, thats my 5c worth into the tin...

[dallasv8]

heres a few of my cars,the TNX has a .32 nitro engine in it and the RC10T2 has a checkpoint 9x1 electric motor.they are the 2 that i race.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...albumId=757998


as for pricing,nitro cars are pretty cheap now.even the motors are relitavely cheap

[M&Ms]

Ok, finished building my car. Just a standard TT 01. After taking it out for a drive, I'm hungry for more speed already. Can't wait til I get my tax return hahaha. Might go for a brushless set up!

A couple of pics on the dinner table just after completion:





And a couple of pics post first-run, taking shelter in my wardrobe:





Interested to see pics of other cars out there.

[crusher]

Good buy man. Your gonna have alot of fun.

Get some spare drift tyres too. HPI4406 are the ducks nuts according to those in the know.

Make sure you put in alot of practice mate. Takes alot of throttle control to get the little bugger going right.

Id recomend buying at least 2 more batteries. And look forward to your motor getting even better after having a few batteries run through it. Your gonna be grinning from ear to ear.

A good site to have a geez at is www.ausdrift.net. You will need to sign up but it is well worth it.