Fastest P-Plate Legal Car

[sleekism]

I don't know how it is in other states but I just fell under the stupid no V8's, Turbo and Engine Modification rules.

Therefore I had to give up my dream of a XT Fairmont 302 Windsor which did 0-100 in over 10 seconds for the non performance Fairmont which will do a much safer 0-100 in mid sevens (with my new exhaust)

My question is what is the fastest p-plate legal cars cutting around excluding ridiculous things such as 80 grand Alfas. I have seen a lot of crappy Lancers cutting around and the new laws have just made the VL epidemic even worse but I have seen a lot of p platers in XR6's and I'm pretty sure manual V6 VN's go pretty hard.

So for the p plater bogan out there what is the top dog performace car? I'm thinking if you can pick up a Valiant Pacer pretty cheap your set.

Off topic: Mate just picked up a V8 Perkins Commodore and he reckons it puts out 180rwkw. I reckon he's full of shite as a stroked Holden V8 goes nowhere near that anybody know anything about it?

[eXi7w0unD]

Originally Posted by sleekism

but I just fell under the stupid no V8's, Turbo and Engine Modification rules.

its not stupid.. its their cus u young 1's keep stuffing up.

instead of getting the fastest p plate legal car. get a nice car with leather and pimp it out. 20's, lowered, zorst. get more chicks and more notice rather then a "fast" car.

thats my opinion. prolly less likely to get pulled over aswell.

[Mongoose]

Originally Posted by eXi7w0unD

prolly less likely to get pulled over aswell.

Your less likely to get pulled over if you dont have P plates on at all

[irlewy86]

Originally Posted by eXi7w0unD

its not stupid.. its their cus u young 1's keep stuffing up.

instead of getting the fastest p plate legal car. get a nice car with leather and pimp it out. 20's, lowered, zorst. get more chicks and more notice rather then a "fast" car.

thats my opinion. prolly less likely to get pulled over aswell.

Even better idea by a S***box laser. Insure it, bang around for 3 years improving your insurance rating saving big dollars. Then when your off your P's you'll have 3 things
1) A decent insurance rating that will save you big dollars when you can handle a performance car
2) A clean license which goes such a long way
3) A large savings account to buy something a lot better than a VL

[philstoj]

Originally Posted by irlewy86

Even better idea by a S***box laser. Insure it, bang around for 3 years improving your insurance rating saving big dollars. Then when your off your P's you'll have 3 things
1) A decent insurance rating that will save you big dollars when you can handle a performance car
2) A clean license which goes such a long way
3) A large savings account to buy something a lot better than a VL

Best advice your going to get on here...

[deathlucky]

Originally Posted by irlewy86

Even better idea by a S***box laser. Insure it, bang around for 3 years improving your insurance rating saving big dollars. Then when your off your P's you'll have 3 things
1) A decent insurance rating that will save you big dollars when you can handle a performance car
2) A clean license which goes such a long way
3) A large savings account to buy something a lot better than a VL

agreed im 18 and have had a motorcycle and im on my 3rd car i had a skyline and wrote it off i work full time and have nothing to show for it my insurance rating is 7 and i have lost 21 points because of the 8 tickets i got 4 being a and if im lucky ill get my license back end of oct i think i have learnt my leason so now ill just stick with my eb falcon

[DA68ZA]

Originally Posted by irlewy86

Even better idea by a S***box laser. Insure it, bang around for 3 years improving your insurance rating saving big dollars. Then when your off your P's you'll have 3 things
1) A decent insurance rating that will save you big dollars when you can handle a performance car
2) A clean license which goes such a long way
3) A large savings account to buy something a lot better than a VL

These are very wise words and you would do well to listen to them .

[XCSEDAN]

Originally Posted by eXi7w0unD

its not stupid.. its their cus u young 1's keep stuffing up.

instead of getting the fastest p plate legal car. get a nice car with leather and pimp it out. 20's, lowered, zorst. get more chicks and more notice rather then a "fast" car.

thats my opinion. prolly less likely to get pulled over aswell.

ok... no offence but no way.

anything that LOOKS modified will have the cops INSTANT attention, however, think about this, dead stock looking falcon, nice quiet exhaust, worked to hell under the bonnet with the right driveline.
cops wont know that if you do it right though ;)

but yeah if you want a quick zippy car, then get a lil mazda or something, OR a cortina with a 250 2V!!!! they fly! (nice light weight with a whole bunch of power !!! )

[SVT8]

have to agree on the cortina.

get a nice tf cortina, respray in blue and chuck a 4l in it. perfect, with a not to loud exhaust and on the limit for lowering.....your laughing. If your really serious about it, then drop in a v8 after your p's. problem solved.

With the whole p'plater epidemic, i have to say alot of the rules are biased to one side. I mean i drive a V8, its modified a bit.......but in the end i do it for myself. Its part of growing up, having enthusiam about your car and doing it up. People have different taste and views on the p'plater issue. So there is always going to be arguements on both sides. As for me........... i intend to keep the car and have the joy of doing progress to it as its not a waste of money, nor is it a bang up car for my p'plate years. If your responsible then you will appreciate your ride with a passion......no matter what it is and how fast it goes. Just for my personal driving i love sticking in first get up to the speedlimit and cruise a couple of kilometres under the actuall limit. Not many Eb's V8 getting about so it makes it that much sweeter to own this vehicle.

[fmc351]

I dont know, I think maybe the politicians are helping you young blokes pick up. I see these clowns rolling down the strip, doof doof doof, the chicks are lookin, burst of speed, blow off valve, gear change, and youre past em, stereo too loud to hear the girlies holla at ya. Then the realisation on the lads, wait they cant see me now, lets go back, u turn, doof doof doof. But you have the attention span of a gnat, cause youse do it again, and again, and again....


DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF pfffttt DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF bugger.



Sorry, I couldnt help myself, you kids are funny. Now get off my lawn

[Ives]

Originally Posted by fmc351

I dont know, I think maybe the politicians are helping you young blokes pick up. I see these clowns rolling down the strip, doof doof doof, the chicks are lookin, burst of speed, blow off valve, gear change, and youre past em, stereo too loud to hear the girlies holla at ya. Then the realisation on the lads, wait they cant see me now, lets go back, u turn, doof doof doof. But you have the attention span of a gnat, cause youse do it again, and again, and again....


DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF pfffttt DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF bugger.



Sorry, I couldnt help myself, you kids are funny. Now get off my lawn

GOLD.

[GTWHOA]

Originally Posted by fmc351

I dont know, I think maybe the politicians are helping you young blokes pick up. I see these clowns rolling down the strip, doof doof doof, the chicks are lookin, burst of speed, blow off valve, gear change, and youre past em, stereo too loud to hear the girlies holla at ya. Then the realisation on the lads, wait they cant see me now, lets go back, u turn, doof doof doof. But you have the attention span of a gnat, cause youse do it again, and again, and again....


DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF pfffttt DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF bugger.



Sorry, I couldnt help myself, you kids are funny. Now get off my lawn

WTF? :

i'd be looking at xr6 falcons. A manual AU or EL or a BA if you can afford one. This is going to be faster then most cars in this class.

I've noticed a few non-turbo imports like supras and skylines the falcon would own these.

[fmc351]

Originally Posted by BFwagon

WTF? :

Gnat?

[EF Futura 07]

once again a stupid rule.

forget-insurance/cost/4cyl/6cyl/turbo/8cyl

look at the facts. obviously some big nob in parliment somewhere has looked at a book. the book has a list of all cars. so what this nob has done is saw turbo or 8cyl next to the car,grabbed his $700 red pen,crossed out all the turbos and 8's, then gave the book to his receptionist and said "here print this". what he has not done is look at the specs. no im not talking about if it has an electric sunroof, of dvd players in headrest but the performance/saftey specs of the car. and this is what really pis*es me off.

ie>
banned list.

audi A4 (4cyl)1.8 turbo 0-100 in 8.5 sec
daihatsu charade (early model) 3cyl turbo about 10 sec
smart car turbo heap of crap 15.5 secs
(none of above are big vehicles therefore rate poorly in saftey (yes even the audi) only 3 stars :

ok list.

ba/bf falcon n/a 6cyl 0-100 7.7 (auto) 7.4 (man)
vn commy 3.8 0-100 7.9 auto
bmw 330/530(same engine) 0-100 6.6 (oh, i know why this one is ok to drive. because it has 35 airbags.stupid me :togo: )
last but not least. all N/A 6cyl porches wich can do 0-100 in 5 sec


GO FIGURE!

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by EF Futura 07

ba/bf falcon n/a 6cyl 0-100 7.7 (auto) 7.4 (man)
vn commy 3.8 0-100 7.9 auto
bmw 330/530(same engine) 0-100 6.6 (oh, i know why this one is ok to drive. because it has 35 airbags.stupid me :togo: )
last but not least. all N/A 6cyl porches wich can do 0-100 in 5 sec


GO FIGURE!

Actually, every single Porsche 911 from 1963-2007 is banned. Its a "high performance six-cylinder vehicle." Same with every Boxster from 1997-2007.

The "high performance six-cylinder," benchmark seems to be 200kW.

The fastest P-Plate legal cars you can buy are...

Lotus Elise/Exige II - 1.8L 141kW, 800kg
BMW Z4 3.0si - 3.0L 195kW I6
VW Golf R32 - 3.2L 184kW V6
BMW 130i M Sport - 3.0L 195kW I6
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA - 3.2L 184kW V6
Renaultsport Clio 182 - 2.0L 131kW I4 (172 also, 124kW I4, same engine, 55kg less weight, same acceleration)

The 330i fits in there somewhere between the 130i and 147 GTA.

Best you can do Porsche wise is a 1987-1992 Porsche 944 S2. 3.0L 4-cyl 157kW. 0-100 in 6.4, 1/4 in 15.0, top whack in the 240 range. For 30k.

[FlipXW]

Lotus Elise/Exige II - 1.8L 141kW, 800kg
Funny u mentioned that. This is what my mate came over in just last week. Had his P-plates for about 6 months.

[xygthop3]

HEY BUDDY..

yeah im shatterd about this law 2 man..
i coped it also..
i got my p's on the 3rd of august and had to postpone my machine of a xe ghia :(...

i bought a ef fairmont for everyday and seriously man ur better off getting a reliabele thrash aroud car and if u cant build the car u want (tahts what im doing)

i made the car look half decent, it does burouts, has a good system and looks half decent..

the faster possible car u can get is a rotary like a series 5 or sumthing like that or a s2000 if u have the dosh..

[TEaaron]

20b N/A rotary in a mazda 323

You're not modifying the engine you're replacing it :

[deathlucky]

it should be a power to weight thing like it is with motorcycles in nsw

[XzLr8]

Originally Posted by fmc351

I dont know, I think maybe the politicians are helping you young blokes pick up. I see these clowns rolling down the strip, doof doof doof, the chicks are lookin, burst of speed, blow off valve, gear change, and youre past em, stereo too loud to hear the girlies holla at ya. Then the realisation on the lads, wait they cant see me now, lets go back, u turn, doof doof doof. But you have the attention span of a gnat, cause youse do it again, and again, and again....


DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF pfffttt DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF bugger.

And thus is the story of how CHAP LAPS was born... LmAO

[Elks]

You people are doing my head in.

200kw = High perfromance 6. Lock up your dauagters here comes those wacko's in a Toyota Aurion. They must be fearless.

On a seperate thought, I wouldn't mind a job at the RTA where they must sit around drinking Tequila slammers rather than doing anything useful. :

[BeStRaFe]

people think p-platers are targets.
MOST OF THE TIME THEY ARE BECAUSE OF THEY WAY THEY ACT.

i was a p-plater for 3.5 years.

in that time i was pulled over a total of 4 times.

1. rbt L-plates, XF Falc
2. mobile phone offense (el falc)
3. speeding offence (el falc)
4. rbt - i was a little nippy at cornering in a quite surburban area (ba falc)

whist i was driving a skyline for 12 months, never pulled over.
its only when you have done something obvious (big exhaust ect) and you just look guilty!!!!

get a nice quick z-tech focus or HO 6cyl probably the most power you will get within p's

[Walkinshaw]

E49

[TZENU]

What are those little VTECH's like nowadays?? :

Really depends what price range you are looking at..

[GSH]

Originally Posted by TZENU

What are those little VTECH's like nowadays?? :

Really depends what price range you are looking at..

Damn fast. My friend had the old Square CRX 1990 had the 1.6litre VTEC...had a K&N cool air intake and an exhaust. 180,000kms on the clock. And poped out a 15.25 1/4.........and a 6.7 0-100kph. Cost him 4k when he bought it.

VTEC is crazy. Imagine that with more mods than just a K&N and an exhaust. Not even extractors!

[Ruger]

fun p plate car e30 325i
1200kg, near perfect weight distribution and 170hp of inline 6 that you can mod to high heavens. 0-100 in 7.4 and light rwd goodness. Engine conversions? pretty much anything from the bmw catalogue.

[RavenLS1]

Originally Posted by Ruger

fun p plate car e30 325i
1200kg, near perfect weight distribution and 170hp of inline 6 that you can mod to high heavens. 0-100 in 7.4 and light rwd goodness. Engine conversions? pretty much anything from the bmw catalogue.

these cars hammer

[apolloxbgt]

Originally Posted by Ruger

fun p plate car e30 325i
1200kg, near perfect weight distribution and 170hp of inline 6 that you can mod to high heavens. 0-100 in 7.4 and light rwd goodness. Engine conversions? pretty much anything from the bmw catalogue.

No engine mods are allowed under the new p plate laws.

[manny_papa]

integra type r

[TEaaron]

Honda S2000 I'd say.